Quitting, Second Jobs, Pivoting & Resting
When positivity doesn't pay the bills, it's time to think outside the box.
This week we delve into the the tricky subject of when you feel like you want to throw in the towel, and give up trying to make ‘ends meet’ as an artist…
First, Julie chats about why she’s feeling peppy and shares her enthusiasm over her newest cloudscapes. Phoebe shares how the winter school holidays are going, how she survived a long car journey and her plans for a local kids art workshop.
This brings them onto the topic, as Phoebe reveals she’s been finding it challenging running an art business lately. They chat about the pitfalls of being self employed during a time when the economy is struggling, and what other options there are out there for artists. Julie boulsters Phoebe’s moral and reminds her of all the ways she’s diversified her income stream, and they discuss how feeling like ‘quitting’ can really just be a motivator to explore new directions or just to press pause on full time arting, and perhaps supplement your income another way - and how none of these makes you a failure.
We have never had so many people DM us about a topic before, so next week we’ll be dedicating a whole episode to answering your listener questions around quitting. If you have any more questions please drop us a line and let us know.
Mentioned in this episode
Phoebe’s kids podcast suggestion list: Tumble Science Podcast for Kids, Smash Boom Best, Who When Wow!
Stereophonic song - One Thousand Trees
“But it only takes one tree to make
A thousand matches
Only takes one match to burn
A thousand trees”Creative NZ article Creative New Zealand and NZ On Air creative professionals research released
Research just released shows that New Zealand’s creative professionals’ median income is $37,000, compared to the median of $61,800 for salary and wage earners. Forty four percent of creative professionals supplement their creative income with other work; the median income from creative pursuits alone is $19,500 a year
Glennon Doyle ‘We can do hard things"‘ episode on quitting
Mel Robbins podcast on Feel like giving up? Before you say F*** It, listen to this.
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Kofi Thanks:
Wendy, Jude,Michelle, Paula, Maureen, Karyn, Grainne, Jan, Caroline & Anne
Artist Shout Outs:
Natalie Holland @onepiecedesignnz
Natalie is exhibiting at the MAGS Art Show for the first time! It runs from July 28-30 so if you are in Auckland pop along and check out works from existing & emerging artists plus top MAGS students
Ian Lawson @lawsonwoodturning & @honereadphotography Ngā Kau starting July 30
New pop up shop and exhibition space with David Cameron (Māori pottery), Hone Read (photographic artist/picture frames/surfboard clocks), Jason Akuhata-Brown (furniture restoration), Ian Lawson (wooadturning/wood carving).
Using the upholstery shop while the owner is out of town. The pop up shop runs until the end of August. Wainui Road, Gisborne (opposite Raglan Roast).
This week
Studio updates:
PG : I’ve not really been in my studio for two weeks but I have been doing a few little paper artworks at my kitchen table.
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JB: clouds! having the best time with these
Life Update:
PG : school holidays:
JB: How did he get to be 4!
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What are you watching/ listening to?
PG : mainly listening to the sound of kids arguing… 🫠
JB: Finally after being recommended them so often, I’m finally listening to Magic Lessons With Elizabeth Gilbert and We Can Do Hard Things by Glennon Doyle
Fab meme of the week
PG:
JB:
Fave Art product of the week?
PG: literally just want to go in my studio!
JB: Just my studio, I can’t wait to get more time in there this week
Anything random to share ?
PG: Follow us on Threads! 🧵
JB: got this update from linkedin in this week.. felt a bit harsh!
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